Uplift My Life Today Podcast – Ep. 24 – 7 plus 7 equals ME! – Rachelle Furer -Part 1

The ghost in your genes


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Not only “The ghost in your genes” is a great documentary from the BBC, but it is also contributing to what I’d like to speak about this time.

Let me ask you first: do you know that all of us carry actively within us the influences of 7 generations of our family system?


You’re not alone. I didn’t either.


For the past few years, I’ve been digging deeper into understanding why so many of us experience a sense of confusion, disconnection, depletion, dissatisfaction, and discontentment.


I had a similar feeling in 2017 shortly after my mother passed away. Tuning in to the sensation that I had, instead of getting an answer, a question of “where do I belong?” arose.

Since then; to search for the answer; I went hunting for clues. Then I reached the topic of Systemic Healing, in particular ancestral healing.




It felt like I opened a treasure trunk with an endless bottom. It’s VAST!


I’ve been learning about this in many ways: a “pilgrimage” into my ancestral home town to reacquaint myself with the Javanese ancient culture, asking my relatives about the history of my family as far as I could, discovered that the stress that caused the higher blood pressure came from inherited wounds (and my health got better after healing), reading books, through my work with my clients, discussions with many people, etc. The learning still continues.

It felt like a continuous journey of collecting puzzle pieces of knowledge and wisdom to integrate.


SYSTEM topic is broad, it’s deep, it’s fascinating and it’s REAL!

Moreover, I believe it is something that we all can gain benefit when we understand it, at least to some degree.


What I’d love to offer you now is my SUMMER gift of 3 podcast episodes about SYSTEM (and systemic healing) to which all of us a part of and how understanding our relationship with it would lead us to a grounding sense of “No matter what, I belong.”


Guided by my beloved mentor, Rachelle Furrer, this 3 parts series is a journey inwards to understand how important it is that we integrate ourselves into our system.


Which system? How does it work? What do you mean by integration? What happens when we don’t? How to do that?


Yes, all of these questions; and more; accompanied by real examples will be shared to illustrate them.


Many of you reading this would probably have lived abroad or maybe even was born or give birth to a child outside of your country of origin. Trust me, you want to listen to this series.


As a summary, here is the snippet of each of the episodes:

Part 1 focuses on The System: what composes it, its nature, how it works, how it impacts us (what it means to belong to our system).

Part 2 contains examples and information when unconscious blind loyalty towards our System drives our lives. It also talks deeply about what happens when we deny or are in conflict with our system as well as suggestions on what to do.

Part 3 speaks about the depth of the systems and how it includes the people who are no longer alive. We also discuss what the role of the present generation is and how we can contribute and bring the system forward. Of course, there are some real case examples to be shared.


I am so grateful that Rachelle is so generous in allowing me to record her sharing her knowledge, expertise, and wisdom on this topic.


 For more than 40 years, Rachelle has been searching for ways to help others move along their paths with greater ease (Thank God for that, as I gained her support when I rose back from burnout).

This exploration has encompassed delving into psychology, philosophy, systemic thinking, spiritual practices, metaphysics, a plethora of alternative therapies along with the more practical and pragmatic pursuit of counseling, coaching, facilitation, and teaching.

Now semi-retired to Switzerland, Rachelle remains passionate about personal and leadership development.

Take your time listening to each of this 🙂

Who knows, the summer holiday may serve you as a fertile time to chat and discover your ancestral stories.

Enjoy and feel free to share with others.





00:00     Opening and introduction

04:14      What a system is. The variety and the nature of clusters that make the system every single one of us belongs to.

11:39       What it means to belong to these systems (a number interconnecting clusters). How this works within us. How our choices to move to different locations than our origins impact our inner world.

17:00     What happens when we’re born in a country outside of our origin. We can never step out of our family system: We carry 7 generations’ influences within us.

18:57     The importance of family and ancestry (the most important cluster within our system). What happens when we deny our ancestry.

20:11     Live demonstration on Astuti’s process to integrate her into one of her systems (Javanese – Indonesian) on a soul level.

24:48   In the modern world where we move around the world, we often forget that we belong to our systems, including ancestry.  To truly feel whole and to have peace within we need to step into our various systems intentionally and consciously.

28:35  How to connect to our systems to energize or when we feel weakened.

39:17  Live show on Astuti process to integrate into her 2nd system (the UK, as she was conceived and born in the UK)

45:00  What it means for the 3rd generation children to belong to their systems and how that is mandatory in order to make them feel whole as an individual on the physical, emotional, and spiritual levels.

49:59  What happens when we deny or in conflict with our systems.

52:00  The role of the current generation, in relation to the past 7 generations.

We didn’t come to earth clean slate!

59:42 Closing 


Inputs, questions, feedback, or suggestion for topics – write to me at astuti@upliftmylife.today. Thanks!

#upliftmylifetoday #risefromburnout #intentionallife #systemic healing #ancestralhealing #bodycode


Copyrights etc.:

Music used in this Episode: “On My Way” by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com).

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

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